Well Congress went and acted, passed a large bill, without reading it, sending millions in aid to other countries, kept transit running, bailed out some businesses that don’t deserve to be bailed out, and sent you $600. Yep, some scraps from the table courtesy of Congress. You should see some of the aid money sent to other countries; countries in the Middle East are featured quite a bit, yep those same countries where we send our young people to die in pointless wars, then pay to “rebuild” and “remodel” their governments after ours….winning proposition huh? Trivia question, name a country the US has left after a successful military operation there? I’ll hold the line.
Yet almost every member of Congress–to a man–is nominating themselves for sainthood after approving a package to keep the government running and send out a cool $600 to certain people. The criteria has yet to be fully released but I would think it’s the same lucky winners from the last go round, regardless or employment status, or if Covid has even had an effect on you. This is because we have no reliable system, as witnessed by California’s EDD (unemployment benefit distributor) sending out fraudulent checks to inmates etc. and ignoring legitimate claims. Trust me on this one, Sen Diane Feinstein, yeah the sitting Senator, “applied for and got a weekly check” yeah…… wild. Not a soul at EDD could catch that one, or Scott Peterson (the one on death row) didn’t get caught either, but for those who actually are eligible, yup many are on their fifth month or more of waiting for the claim to be processed. SAD!
Back to the $600. What makes me most upset is that’s a very small amount. For me, a single guy, that covers my utilities for about 2 months. Think about folks 9 months behind on rent, utilities, mortgages, car payments, credit cards, student loans….so on so forth. Doesn’t inspire much confidence does it? In truth the $600 will please the 90 Day Guys, since the stocks hit a new record high as of this writing. And for most, that buys Christmas gifts, especially when you add on the extra $600 per child. However I see no one making an effort to pay off past due debt, because well, what’s the point? The government has no answer, and we have always rewarded bad behavior.
In closing, look for the bleeding hearts to come out and demand larger checks, think $2-4,000. (This has already started) Then look for cries that these checks should be monthly, until we hit a pre-Covid unemployment or economic growth numbers. These numbers are not likely to be matched for years, so in essence we will have Universal Basic Income. Ironically its Republicans such as Josh Hawley of Missouri pushing for this. Stupidly the GOP will fall for this gamut, and we will be the co-authors of UBI. Good luck taking these payments away once they start. If you are on the receiving end of these checks….well it’s your money so do as you please, congrats.
BTW $600 when you have shut businesses down for 9 months and counting is pathetic, very Marie Antoinette-like I may add.
Yep, in a story about Rush Limbaugh’s last broadcast of 2020, another Fox reporter inserted his editorial comment into the story to get a dig at the President.
Limbaugh also praised President Trump’s Tuesday night address in which he lambasted the coronavirus relief bill and continued to make baseless claims that he could remain in office beyond January.
Sorry folks but there is a plan in the works to use the Constitution to dispute the election when Congress meets January 6th to count the votes of the Electoral College. The goal is to let Congress decide. Thus, for the Fox reporter to say, “President Trump … continued to make baseless claims that he could remain in office beyond January” is incorrect and they know it.
Sorry but to call a Constitutional process “baseless” is not the Fox of old when they claimed, “We report, you decide.”
With Republicans like Mitt Romney as office holders, I’d characterize it as a longshot that Trump is victorious in Congress, but it is his right—with Congressional support—to appeal the election to this court of last appeal. Especially with the Supreme Court sitting it out. This move appears to be his only viable play.
I firmly believe that thousands of fraudulent votes were cast in the Presidential election and wish that Trump could find justice in rectifying this wrong. However, those of us that believe this want someone or something to intervein and set things right. In my opinion, some in this camp have Jumped the Shark in pushing the narrative that there is a remedy that will happen at the last minute.
Below is an example of Jumping the Shark from a group called Stop the Steal. FYI: There was briefly a formal Facebook group by this name until it got too big and then FB killed it. It had over 350,000 members in less than 24 hours and Big Tech didn’t like it. FB claimed that Stop the Steal wouldn’t accept the results of the election and this opposition was inciting violence. In contrast, BLM is regarded by FB as a peace-loving group that never really burned all those businesses in Seattle and Portland—clearly a case of multiple cases of spontaneous combustion in high population areas due to global warming.
Why did President Trump tell his Twitter followers to watch @OANN (One America News Network)?
Because OANN broadcast an Electoral Map showing the real time election results from the seized CIA servers before the numbers were fixed for Biden:
Trump 410, Biden 128
Note: California, Minnesota, and Hawaii all went RED for Trump!
TRUMP WON!
— Stop the Steal
Stop the Steal post via FB Messenger 12/14/2020
Folks, claiming that Trump really won California is so ridiculous that I cringed when I read it. Clearly the guy that wrote this post lives elsewhere or he’d know better. This conclusion is the end of an extensive post on how Dominion voting machines are part of a larger conspiracy of socialists and likeminded folks. If you’ve heard Sidney Powell talk about the subject, it reminded me of what she says when talking with Sean Hannity. Talk about discrediting the whole argument…wow!
What of President Trump?
Let me preface what I’m about to say with a reminder that I love Donald Trump and think he’s the best President that we’ve had since Ronald Reagan, but …
Dear Mr. Trump, unless Mike Pence is really going to reject some electors on January 6 and kick this election to Congress then it’s time to throw in the towel. Clearly the fix is in for you and really for many millions of us. If you expect the masses to rise up and support you, sorry it ain’t happening. I’d love to see it but “an army of one” is a campaign slogan for military recruitment not a formula for transforming a nation.
If you want proof that so-called conservatives don’t have your back, look at the “bitter clingers” that voted for you by the millions. I can just about name every minister in the country that didn’t close their churches when told to do so by the government. Such orders are illegal, immoral, and unconstitutional but almost to a man, everyone complied without resistance (and they still are). Now you expect these folks to fight for you when they won’t even fight for themselves!!
Sorry President Trump but are you still a leader when no one follows?
Kenny Rogers once sung the lyrics:
“You’ve got to know when to hold ’em, know when to fold ’em, know when to walk away…”
Yeah, they dealt you a hand from under the table, but you appear to be holding a lot of nothing and you’re out of chips.
In the Far East, they have a thing about saving face and living to fight another day, perhaps you need to consider an exit strategy that allows you to do likewise. I would love for you to prevail, but your options are all but gone and it appears nobody has your back. Unless you’ve got an ace up your sleeve, then it’s time to walk away.
While the theatres are still closed, there is a storm a brewing and it will likely premier around January of next year. I came across an article on Seeking Alpha, (the hard news part not the commentary part) about $40 billion in uncollected utility payments so far during the pandemic. If that doesn’t shock you, I do not know what will.
I am not going to long form blog this like I usually do, but I just want to point out that is a debt that is not repayable. During the beginning of this two week shutdown to flatten the curve back in March, most governors, if not all, declared utilities cannot disconnect. Thus, folks with past due accounts, because Covid, got free utilities. Unlike the government, they cannot print money and will have to account for this loss some way or another.
What is the answer? Sadly, I lost my crystal ball, but my thoughts are the following: the moratorium on this will continue as the optics of turning off heating in the winter for grandma doesn’t look great. Ditto for low-income families, or renters. I feel the answer will be blended; to those who faithfully paid their bills (most Republicans and responsible folks), will be told thanks and get nothing and like it. For those who didn’t pay, it will depend on your local PUC (Public Utility Corp) to decide. Maybe you make small “catchup” payments, or they wipe out your balance and you get to start over (just like PG&E). I’m thinking its option 2. I can see Biden bailing out the “green” utilities, or incentivizing those who phase out coal etc. This will be the way of pushing the Green New Deal. I also think the PUC will grant a “Covid recovery fee” to be added to all bills to make those folks current. Once again, in this country, those who are responsible will get nothing and those who refused to pay (you must remember, the moratorium applied to anyone, not people Covid positive) get bailed out. This will be the Biden/AOC way to force the Green New Deal on us.
Sadly, I see this same issue playing out in other sectors of the economy as well; how many folks haven’t paid rent due to this? In addition, how about unpaid mortgages? That number will dwarf the 80 billion easily. Credit cards? Ditto, especially after this year’s Christmas Season. Buckle up, I do not see a very pretty 2021, you won’t be able to kick this can very far.
That there was wholesale election fraud is not really the question but what remedy, if any, can be had through the courts? To that end, the State of Texas has brought suit against other states alleging violation of the U.S. Constitution. I wish to comment on a related article posted by Fox News today.
The Texas case, which is unique in that it seeks to take advantage of the Supreme Court’s original jurisdiction for disputes between states, has drawn widespread attention with a large number of parties asking to weigh in as “amici curiae,” Latin for “friends of the court.”
Most notably, 17 red states weighed in favor of Texas while over 20 states and territories backed Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan and Georgia. And 106 Republican House members backed the Texas suit.
Meanwhile, the Trump campaign, Missouri and five other states have gone as far as to the Supreme Court to let them join the Texas suit as litigants before the court, not just outside parties weighing in.
After the article provides 15 paragraphs of information on the legal filing, then it switches into 12 paragraphs on why trying for a legal remedy is a waste of the Supreme Court’s time. Only legal opinions from people that oppose the lawsuit by Texas are quoted by the authors.No lawyers on Fox’s payroll (Napolitano and Levin) are even mentioned in the article. No, instead they quote a guy that contributes “opinion pieces published in the Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, Christian Science Monitor, Slate and Politico …” (Carl Tobias) and two Libertarian lawyers that work for a thinktank funded by the anti-Trump Koch Brothers, (Walter Olson and Ilya Shapiro). Oh, the other law guy they quote is not only a Harvard Professor but was a Democrat candidate for President in 2016 (Lawrence Lessig).
What’s conservative about this line-up? Guess “Fair and Balanced” left the building with Roger Ailes.
Then the article ends with this zinger:
Biden won the electoral college 306-232 over Trump.
The Electoral College hasn’t voted yet, so this is a bald-faced lie. If they said something to the effect that without a legal remedy, it appears that Biden has enough votes to win the Electoral College, then I could accept that but that’s not Fox’s position. These guys are so, full-on Trump haters that I can hardly stand to read their website anymore.
Imagine being a top health official in a county during a pandemic. Imagine it being your time to shine. Imagine that despite being wrong constantly and changing your story almost daily, your employer stuck with you. Imagine using a racial slur during a Board of Supervisors meeting. Imagine going on a local newscast that night and using the same term over and over again, whilst trying to convince people you aren’t a racist. Imagine the pandemic getting far worse, with a potential complete shutdown imminent due to lack of ICU beds in your county. Imagine the people that you serve needing your guidance and your response is quitting your job and moving across the country.
That is precisely what this idiot did. The virus has made a bleak situation even more dire here and this jerk decides to quit his job and move back to Baltimore. Mind you he isn’t moving to open a practice or see patients, or even to apply for a lateral job, he is going to teach at a university. This is typical of an idiot like Beilensen. Cushy government jobs like his are great and the perks are even better. Typically, he just has to put out a press release about getting a flu shot, or maybe a warning about West Nile Virus each year. But Beilenson is unable to do that now since there is a major virus outbreak happening under his watch, so he is up and leaving after a whole 2.5 years on the job. He is the worst kind of person, a true and complete shell of a person. He shutdown our county and followed our idiot governor’s orders, not speaking up or out on anything, and for good reason; he is a research doctor, not an actual doctor.
Beilenson’s public troubles began a few weeks ago and culminated with him using a racial slur against “yellow” people during a meeting. Beilenson then, as a co-worker alleged, drank copious amounts of alcohol and then went on an interview with local newscaster Edie Lambert. In addition to looking disheveled, he also appeared to be slurring his speech and constantly interrupting during the interview. Beilenson then doubled down on dumb by saying he spoke to a couple Asian groups and they forgave him. So, I guess if I drop the “N word” a few times, but a couple black folks forgive me all is well? Doesn’t seem like this is the brightest bulb on the Holiday Tree.
This week, Beilensen’s idea to fine businesses that violate his Covid rules up to $10,000 a day got shotdown by county supervisors after making national news. Oh, his backup proposal was similarly tabled. Having lost his attempt to go after businesses, he wanted the county to impose similar fines on people getting married or gathering for the holidays.
So, he will be leaving Sacramento an utter embarrassment for a lucrative job to be a professor? Yikes that is a steep fall from grace. Reality is, after contacting three additional folks I know in his department, they say he is a Class-A jerk. He is routinely using racial slurs, much like the soon to be fired Navdeep Gill, again proving this workplace is toxic. While we have no proof of sexual misconduct, it was interesting in the letter to fire Navdeep, Dr. Beilenson didn’t sign on or speak up. As I see it, proving he is in on it as well. When the kitchen got a little hot, he ran. He claims it’s a health emergency in his family, I doubt that to be true. On that point, all four of my sources agree. I guess it is better to resign before getting “axed the question.”
Baltimore, beware of this drunken, racist idiot, you have been warned.
I think the proof is overwhelming that widespread and very organized voter fraud was committed. This fraud was to the extent that it changed the results of the Presidential race. In light of this, what should the Court do? Do they disenfranchise the voters and unilaterally declare a winner?
My answer is a resounding, “No”.
I think the Court will want a Constitutional answer and not want to be accused of legislating from the bench. If this is true, there is only one solution. How this solution may be worded will be interesting but ultimately, the race will be sent to the House of Representatives. I think the Electoral College will be bypassed, either directly or by wording that denies either candidate the required number of votes to win outright.
Let’s see if I’m right.
Oh, moments after I penned the above, there was this from the State of Texas.
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton sued battleground states Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan and Wisconsin on Tuesday to challenge their 2020 presidential election results.
“Using the COVID-19 pandemic as a justification, government officials in the defendant states of Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin, and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (collectively, ‘Defendant State’), usurped their legislatures’ authority and unconstitutionally revised their state’s election statutes,” Paxton’s complaint says. “They accomplished these statutory revisions through executive fiat or friendly lawsuits, thereby weakening ballot integrity.”
Paxton is asking the U.S. Supreme Court to “declare that any electoral college votes cast by such presidential electors appointed in Defendant States Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin are in violation of the Electors Clause and the Fourteenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and cannot be counted.
“Disputes between states are among the few cases of original jurisdiction for the Supreme Court, meaning lower courts cannot first hear the cases.
Suppose I was entered into a golf tournament which required a person to have a score keeper they could hire and an impartial observer to witness the scorekeeper. And I shot a very good game and expected to win….but at the last minute another competitor came in and on his scorecard showed that he made a hole in one on EVERY hole. And I was told because of this guy, I lost the tournament.
How could I PROVE that this score was fraudulent? When I went to ask the observer, he was told to wait in his car in the parking lot. He is unable to provide me with “any proof” of fraud, right?
I could ask the score keeper, but he is a foreign national and can not be located anywhere.
So, as a last ditch effort, I’d have to hire a statistician to mathematically and scientifically demonstrate just how unlikely this “hole in one on every hole” happens to be.
I could comment that this golfer has NEVER made a hole in one in his entire life………is that of any proof of fraud in this case?
The statistician could show that this is “implausible”………is that enough proof of fraud?
I could comment that in the history of the world no human being has achieved such a feat……….is THAT even proof enough to cast doubt on this score?
I am sure that you can easily relate this story to the presidential election at hand.
When a fraudulent score is reported, how does one “prove” it?
The statisticians from many many angles have shown that in these 5 contested States, the result is implausible. The observers were effectively left sitting in their cars in the parking lots. The manuals for the “counting” machines have features that permit creative funky vote counting functions. Why are these features even available? Were they used? How can we tell?
I will attach an article well written on the big picture of all of this and after reading it, you’ll “smell something fishy.” It offers no direct proof, but if presented to a grand jury, it would raise enough suspicion to warrant a trial for sure. (Won’t do it with this post as I don’t want this to be blocked by FB). Other similar articles are also available, each with a completely different angle of anomalies to consider.
I am not buying the scorecard that shows a hole in one on every hole. I wonder how a judge could be convinced in such a scenario?
Or would a judge simply tell me that I must accept the results?
So far, it seems as if that has been the case. And I find it as disturbing as it is absurd.
Editor’s Note: The above was written earlier today by an old friend from my time in the military. He has been flagged by Facebook’s algorithm for being a politically incorrect libertarian. As you can see he has a brilliant mind.
Hell hath frozen over. The apocalypse may actually be happening. I woke up and read an article about Covid closures this AM and blood almost shot out of my eyes. That or I thought perhaps my bottled water was really a bottle of the sacrament provided by the “Drunken Jedi.”
Folks the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors met last night about enforcing a “zero dining” rule for all restaurants due to the Covid pandemic. Local Health director Barbara Ferrer another worthless government hack who hasn’t seen a patient in decades was defending shutting down all dining, outdoor included to stem the positive tests for Covid. She backed it up with a CDC study listed below….
The Los Angeles County Department of Public Health admitted during a Board of Supervisor’s meeting Tuesday that there is no hard scientific evidence linking the recent COVID-19 surge to back up their move to shut down outdoor dining.
In laying out the department’s case to proceed with the recently proposed restrictions set to take effect on Wednesday, Dr. Muntu Davis said that restaurant-specific contact tracing data around the coronavirus was scarce, “as a public health department we have to look at the highest risks, and where we can reduce those risks,” adding that restaurants fit the high-risk category.
Instead of specific data, the health official cited a CDC study that targeted 11 different outpatient healthcare facilities in 10 states as the “best information we have.” The study found that those patients with COVID-19 were twice as likely to have dined out at a restaurant.
Yes, you read that correctly, the LA department of public health admitted the study is bunk. Imagine using a study where people weren’t asked if they dined in or outdoors, just if they dined? Remember Janice Hanh? She is a former congresswoman and a very liberal one at that, she weighed in……
Supervisor Janice Hahn noted she had never seen the type of community pushback that the board has been hearing and noted that the public is “really losing faith and trust in the decisions that we’re making.”She questioned why the Department of Public Health wouldn’t just target restaurants not following the rules rather than prohibiting all outdoor dining.
That’s right folks, Hahn says the people are losing faith in their government officials, she is starting to sound like William and I.
Gavin Newsom at the French Laundry restaurant with lobbyists 11/06/2020
Check out Supervisor Chair Kathryn Barger’s take…….
Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors chair Kathryn Barger argued during the meeting that without firm data showing that restaurants are specifically a leading cause in the spike in COVID-19 cases, she “cannot in good conscience” support the proposed modification to shut down outdoor dining on Wednesday.
“I feel that what is happening today is truly going to devastate not only the workers but their families,” Barger added, saying that she felt the closures were “arbitrary and punitive.”
Barger also said she believes public health panicked when the county’s case numbers began to rise, and that the order is simply a “knee-jerk reaction to something that has no scientific backing to show that we are going to slow the spread.”
“If anything, we have basically put a final nail in many of these restaurants coffins,” she added.
While she is disappointed in the outcome, Barger said that she knows she did the right thing to push back against the order and fight for an industry that “is being targeted unfairly and and is being subjected to really unfair practice.”
In actuality I think Barger is a republican but Hahn is very liberal, and she added even more….
Hahn, who was also disappointed by the outcome, stressed the need for federal financial intervention.
“It’s killing me to think that at this point, a few weeks before the holidays, we are considering an order to force restaurants to maybe shut down permanently. We know they will lay off employees if they are restricted to takeout and curbside only,” she said. “I really don’t think that’s something I want to do… We are careening down another economically tragic road.”
The Los Angeles Economic Development Corporation has predicted that approximately 700,000 jobs in the food industry would be lost during the county’s shutdown, and 75% of all projected job losses would affect people earning $50,000 or less.
While William and I oppose a federal government bailout, sadly with the “election” of Joe Biden, we will see many a blue state, county, city, and municipality approach him hat in hand for a bailout. We do not know the outcome, but I do not think there will be much of a stomach for congress to do this. Folks this underscores what William and I have believed since day 1, this has nothing to do with science, it has to do with politics. The government has strangled local businesses, big and small, look at Disney’s parks in Southern California? Wouldn’t a better take be to allow indoor, with masks and distancing, outdoor, and take out? Rather than a shutdown of all operations other than takeout? Have health service staff check on local businesses to make sure distancing, masks, cleaning etc. are being followed? I guess add a punitive option for violations. We are at a loss for words here at the blog, all we can say is stop watching so much cable people. This shutdown is based on nothing but irrational thoughts from folks who haven’t a clue about how economics work. I thought we had a team of contact tracers. How come they can’t do their work and find out where the spread is occurring from? The restaurants are being unfairly targeted. Wait until after 12/31 folks when the real Armageddon starts. Businesses will no longer want to “try to keep afloat” stores will close, and the eviction moratorium will need to be lifted. Were sorry but another round of treasury department loans and $1,200 checks ain’t gonna cut it. Look for massive economic decay soon, perhaps the best thing to come out of this is some people’s true colors; Madame Pelosi, Comrade Newsome and the Duchess of Lansing, Whitmer as well as the 90-Day Guy took a big hit. Pelosi getting a hair blowout, Newsom dining at the French Laundry, Whitmer wanting to take her boat out, and 90-Day Guy for exposing himself as a pro government shutdown liberal.
They say a fish rots from the headfirst, and in Sacramento County that proves to be true. Navdeep “Nav” Gill was hired back in 2016 as county executive or CEO. He is in charge of overseeing all county’s operations, doling out budget dollars and other things government workers do like monitoring incompetence and making sure it gets rewarded. Well Mr. Gill has had a rough few weeks. This started about 2 weeks ago with Supervisors Serna and Kennedy (no relation to the political family I am aware of) urging Gill to resign during a meeting, explosive allegations followed.
Here is a snippet….
A letter from the Board Chair Phil Serna and District 2 Supervisor Patrick Kennedy was addressed to Navdeep “Nav” Gill on Tuesday. The missive comes after a County employee tested positive for COVID-19, following an in-person meeting led by Gill a week ago where attendees did not wear masks or face coverings. The County heavily touted the measure among the best ways to prevent spreading the virus. Other staffers have been told to quarantine.
“As you are well aware, we have had as a board and individually, several difficult conversations of late calling into question your patterned behavior and questionable leadership and decision making,” the letter reads.
“The events of the past few days, as well as hearing from county staff, have elevated our concerns,” it continues.
Gill has been on the hot seat since August when the public learned that he had given the bulk of the federal money the County received to respond to the coronavirus pandemic for Corrections expenses. The fact that the Board of Supervisors seemed unaware of the move did not sit well.
That is not exactly great news right there. Say what you want about a face covering mandate but if you are a government agency whose board mandated it, you need to comply. Worse yet is if a member of said meeting pops positive for the ‘rona. I reached out to a friend who was at the meeting, Gill made fun of folks wearing a mask, and while Gill wasn’t wearing one, he was conveniently 10 feet from the next closest person in the meeting while the others were shoulder to shoulder almost. Nice guy this Gill fellow!
Gill said after lots of spiritual reflection he would not resign from his post. I cannot name too many who choose to resign in government, its far better to be fired so you can collect the remainder of your contract, the City of Elk Grove knows a lot about that.
Then a letter was presented to the board from Dr. Olivia Kasirye and other women in the county government and quite frankly it’s pretty damning.
“Over the years, County Executive Gill has created a toxic culture rife with sexism, intimidation, racism, and a blatant disregard for public health,” the letter begins. “We can no longer stand by and allow Nav Gill to operate with impunity as he has done for years as such behavior only hurts the residents of our beloved county.”
The document summarizes instances in which women, particularly women of color, felt they were singled out for abuse. The letter said women leaders in the agency have abruptly resigned because of sexist behavior, and some staff members were retaliated against after speaking up about their experiences.
What’s more, the letter says, county staff members were ridiculed for wearing masks during department meetings. The letter also accused Gill of making disparaging remarks about people of color and using racial slurs during department head meetings.
Ummm, Navdeep is Indian or so it appears. Why in God’s name is this moron criticizing people of color or disparaging women in the Year of Our Lord 2020? This guy must not know how to read the environment or read a room, those behaviors are out and out fire able. Here is another damning quote:
“With regard to Nav, it’s not just a personnel matter which of course are extremely important to get to the bottom of,” Serna said. “But this is also about his history of behavior and how he treats the board. For me, he’s been dismissive, unwilling to perform follow through when he commits to it.” Phil Serna Chair Sac County Board of Supervisors.
I just do not understand what in the heck has happened to this county! First you have racist Dr. Beilenson, and now this jackwagon? While I am no fan of his politics, Serna and Kennedy are both far left Democrats, they seem to agree this guy should be gone. As far as I am concerned, take racist Beilenson with him. These two are a disgrace, funny both are accused of racism right? This fish stinks and its best to get rid of both. Problem is, to can Navdeep, you need 4/5 voting to remove. I would call Don Nottoli a swing vote, Susan Peters is retiring so she could be the 4th vote. Susan Frost looks lost. She has gone as far as to support Gill saying this are unsubstantiated. I am sorry supervisor but when quite a number of folks are accusing you of the same thing that’s a lot of smoke to have no fire present.
Terminate them all….or as Jon Taffer would say “Shut it the F*** Down!”
